Posts tagged Religion
Posts tagged Religion
First off, just stop. Your boss doesn’t get to dictate what you do with your paycheck, whether it’s buying groceries, donating it all to orphans, or splurging it on hookers and blow.
Your boss might take issue with you buying pork because he’s Jewish, donating it to orphans because she thinks they’re godless, or on the hookers and blow because that’s not very Christian of you. However, your bosses would be ridiculed for thinking they have the right to tail you to make sure you’re spending YOUR money in accordance with their faith, right? There’s not much difference here. Set aside that the insurance is not directly offered by Hobby Lobby, or that they could pay taxes/penalties instead of lawyers and legal fees by kicking everyone onto the exchange, thereby taking away their supposed moral conundrum. Spoiler alert: HEALTH BENEFITS ARE COMPENSATION FOR YOUR LABOR. Why would you think for one second that your boss gets to dictate what you do with your compensation?
Second, I want you to try a thought experiment. Let’s say the owner of a for-profit business is a devout Muslim. It is forbidden in the Muslim faith to consume pork. You’ve gone to the doctor for pneumonia, and your doc gives you antibiotics. Unfortunately, many medicines in gel capsules contain gelatin, which is usually derived from animal protein. Due to fears about mad cow, it’s more common for it to be derived from pigs. Your boss claims to have the right to bar you from taking that antibiotic because your health plan is paid for in part by the company, so therefore your boss gets to dictate the company’s (their) religious belief trumps your doc’s opinion because the for-profit company is an extension of their faith. Can you imagine the pearl-clutching if Muslim business owners told these good Christians (or anyone else, for that matter) that they could not have potentially lifesaving medicine because of the owner’s beliefs? Richard Dawkins might stroke out from rage. Fox News might never recover. Michele Bachmann would require a fainting couch for the resulting vapors.
How about if it’s medicine in a gelatin capsule for high blood pressure, depression, or even erectile dysfunction medication? How about if your devout Catholic boss would only cover erectile dysfunction for married men because premarital sex is a sin, and ONLY if said medication was used with no contraception and in pursuit of conception because sex is only for procreation and every sperm is sacred? Or dictating no treatment for HIV or AIDS because only “sinners” get it and their god says no dice?
Or what if your boss says no insulin because it was derived from animal protein long ago or no Heparin to treat a blood clot because it still contains animal tissue, and their vegatarianism is a deeply-held belief too, isn’t that kinda sorta like religion, please Justice Scalia?
I cannot wrap my head around Hobby Lobby’s view that medical treatment is their business because said treatment might maybe have something to do with their employees doing the sex on their time away from work — y’know, their private lives. Not all contraceptives and reproductive health visits are for preventing maybe babies — hormonal contraceptives have a myraid of uses beyond preventing conception. The only time the sex lives of Hobby Lobby employees is their business is if employees are boning on the clock — THEN Hobby Lobby has every right to say “No sex time ‘til break time, please.” They can’t say, “No sex time ‘til ring time, please. Because Jesus.”
Working for a for-profit employer in the U.S. does not mean you must also swallow their religious dictates hook, line, and sinker. To claim otherwise in the name of religious freedom is a complete fallacy and wholly offensive to the very idea of religious freedom itself.
Tickets for the debate on February 4th go on sale Monday, January 6th and are $25 each. The debate will start at 7 PM, with the scheduled topic, “Is creation a viable model of origins?”
Legacy Hall, Creation Museum
2800 Bullittsburg Church Rd
Petersburg, KY 41080
This is the only time I will say that I wish I could be closer to Kentucky.
YESSSSSSSS…. Full post here: http://dangerousminds.net/comments/get_your_popcorn_ready_bill_nye_the_science_guy_to_debate_idiot_creation
Every human being enjoys a basic right to be respected, not because of any title, position, prestige, or accomplishment but first of all because we are created in the image and likeness of God. From an ethical and moral perspective we embrace the exhortation of St. Paul “to anticipate one another in showing honor” (Rom 12:10). Today’s competitive culture challenges us to strive for victory and advantage, but for St. Paul the challenge is to build each other up and honor one another’s innate dignity.
Labor Day is an opportunity to take stock of the ways workers are honored and respected. Earlier this year, Pope Francis pointed out, “Work is fundamental to the dignity of a person… . It gives one the ability to maintain oneself, one’s family, to contribute to the growth of one’s own nation.” Unfortunately, millions of workers today are denied this honor and respect as a result of unemployment, underemployment, unjust wages, wage theft, abuse, and exploitation.
Even with new indicators of some modest progress in recovery, the economy still has not improved the standard of living for many people, especially for the poor and the working poor, many of whom are unemployed or underemployed. More than four million people have been jobless for over six months, and that does not include the millions more who have simply lost hope. For every available job, there are often five unemployed and underemployed people actively vying for it. This jobs gap pushes wages down. Half of the jobs in this country pay less than $27,000 per year. More than 46 million people live in poverty, including 16 million children. The economy is not creating an adequate number of jobs that allow workers to provide for themselves and their families. Jobs, wages, and poverty are interrelated. The only way to reduce the widening gap between the affluent and the poorest people in our nation is by creating quality jobs that provide a just compensation that enables workers to live in the dignity appropriate for themselves and their families.
Right on. It’s not often I praise the Catholic Church for anything, but it’s lovely to see the Catholic Bishops moving back towards a message of social justice, versus one of exclusion. Not that I think this speaks for the church as a whole, but praise when it’s due, y’know? Pope Frank ain’t perfect, but he’s better than
Emperor Palpatine Pope Benedict.
Back in August, during a Springfield City Council public hearing on amending the city’s nondiscrimination ordinance to include sexual orientation and gender identity protections, Rev. Phil Snider of the Brentwood Christian Church lashed out at the council for “inviting the judgement of God upon our land” by making “special rights for gays and lesbians.”
He goes on to invoke the bible and morality and the end of days a few more times before suddenly appearing to lose his train of thought.
And then something pretty amazing happens.
You HAVE to watch until about the two-minute mark. Let me put this in picture form for you:
Nour Abuagila, a Libyan student at the University of Wyoming, mans a table at the student union in response to Tuesday’s attacks in Libya. The table featured pictures of people in Libya holding signs rebuking the violence.
He said, “We want people to know that this is not Libyans. There’s six of us Libyans students here today. We talked to our families back home. They said, ‘It is not all Libyans. Libyans are crying.’ It is the extremists. We do not want Americans to think this is all Libyans, that it is all Muslims. It is not. We are grateful for support against extremists.”
Image text: [On behalf of Libyan students we Apologize and condemn in strongest terms the criminal and terrible action that happened recently in Libya. These militant islamist groups do not represent Libyans. Please remember there were Libyans who fought against the extremists. We Will never forget US supports.]
I’m not sure how to feel about this other than somewhat sad. Are we really at the point where Libyans both in Libya and the U.S. feel the need to clarify this point?
Or have we never left that point?
Look at Muslims being continuously asked to apologize for extremists in their faith. Are Christians asked to apologize for every Christian terrorist or act of violence committed by Christians? No. If the question is ever broached, the response is, “Well, they’re not true Christians, so…”
To my fellow Americans: If that above holds true, then Al-Qaeda and the attackers in Libya and Egypt are not true Muslims. Fair? Otherwise, white Christians have some serious tabling to do at UW on behalf of the violence inflicted on American Indians.
Scientist Bill Nye (the Science Guy) on not teaching your children to deny evolution for the good of America.
In summary, creationists are hurting future America. Bill Nye thinks you should stop that.
This just came up on my FB feed because an acquaintance “liked” it. My head just about exploded.
I suppose I’m not terribly surprised, since the image was posted by an account called “Catholic Church” (their info states: ‘This is not an official page approved by the Catholic Church. It is a lay initiative and has no approval from any Ecclesiastical Authority.”), and links to uCatholic (motto: “Catholic Traditions in the Modern World”.
I’m not even surprised that the acquaintance “liked” the image, since she’s a devout LDS, married with three kids.
I really don’t care about someone else’s religious belief, or sense of morality.
What has me raging, however, is the blatant misinformation…the generalization…and the projection of one group’s sense of morality onto others.
Not only is this a slap in the face to those who don’t want to get married or can’t get married , but it’s an incredibly dangerous assertion when you consider the truth about HIV and other STIs.
I’m sorry (not really), but a ring on your finger and a signed marriage license aren’t going to protect your health.
Fidelity won’t necessarily protect your health.
Sex is not the only way that HIV is transmitted…and the idea that marriage and/or fidelity equates “safe” sex is just one of many myths that has allowed for the rapid spread of HIV infection, particularly among couples in sub-Saharan Africa. In fact, about one out of every ten couples living in Kenya has at least one partner who is HIV+. Among married people who are living with HIV, 45% have a partner who is uninfected.
According to Population Action International:
“In a study of five African countries, two thirds of HIV-infected couples are serodiscordant (one partner is HIV-negative, while the other is HIV-positive).
In Rwanda and Zambia, it is estimated that over half of new infections occur within marriage or in cohabitating relationships, and just under half in Uganda.
While risk of transmission in discordant couples can be drastically reduced, this can only happen when partners are tested, disclose their results, and use condoms. “
There’s really nothing righteous about lying and promoting ignorance. This sort of bullshit “wishful thinking” is killing people. It’s beyond infuriating. It’s despicable.
Sarah Palin, continuing her desperate last gasps of trying be relevant on Fox News.
Typically, I wouldn’t give her more attention. But I’ve heard this argument so many damn times over the few days, so let’s roll.
First, what Dan Cathy said IS anti-gay and he’s donated to anti-gay organizations — groups which have helped the efforts in Uganda to criminalize homosexuality and execute gay people, are listed as hate groups by the Southern Poverty Law Center, and who have called for harmful “reparative therapy” to be standard treatment for gay people.
Plenty of folks have pointed out that this is not the way to spread a message of love thy neighbor. I would agree. As Suzette Standring wrote, “Jesus healed, socialized, walked, and ate with the marginalized and the flawed. Peter had anger management issues. Matthew was a hated tax collector. The Samaritan woman at the well was considered off limits to talk to for racial reasons. When an adulteress was about to be stoned, it was Jesus who challenged the sinless to cast the first stone. Her attackers left and when it was clear no one stayed to condemn her, Jesus said with great gentleness, ‘Then neither do I condemn you. Go now and leave your life of sin’ (John 8:1-11)… If Jesus had harsh words for anyone, it was against those who saw themselves as the authorities of spiritual leadership. He criticized them publicly for hypocrisy, setting bad examples, and for perverting the word of God in order to maintain their own power.”
Second, I know this is difficult, but read this, plus this, this, this, and this. That’s why you’re 100% wrong about boycotts. Boycotts are free speech. Think about money as speech. Withholding money is also speech. It goes both ways. Please see
Less Than One Million Moms and their boycotts against JC Penney, Ellen DeGeneres, and the NBC show The New Normal.
Third, as Meghan McCain said, being anti-marriage equality IS being anti-gay. Is being anti-interracial marriage racist? You betcha.
Fourth, if a business owner gets political, even for religious reasons, expect a backlash. You don’t get to reel back and say, “Hey, no hard feelings, homos. Buy my chicken.” If your chicken gets political, we get political with your chicken. You dig?
In summary, go back to Alaska, snowbilly.
This is the only education issue the anti-gay, anti-choice PAC WyWatch cares about enough to put on its candidate questionnaire.
I’m not even going to tell you how many others support this because I lost count.
That’s it. I’m proposing using Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter as an elective because it could have happened. You guys don’t know! You weren’t there!
I doubt Jesus would purposefully hit up a Chick-Fil-A today just to prove to his dad how much he hates the gays. I really do.
But if he did, I can give you the Reader’s Digest version of what would happen: He’d order up a couple of chicken sandwiches and some waffle fries, maybe a fruit cup, and POOF – dinner for five thousand. Remember the loaves and fishes thing? I bet it works for chicken and waffle fries, too.
Then, Jesus would take that food and feed the poor, some of whom are likely gay and have had sex outside of marriage. Why? Because compassion. Because love. Because judge not lest ye be judged. I imagine he’d probably give y’all a little lecture about being Pharisees, though.
I’m a pretty severely lapsed Catholic, and even I get this.
In summary, you’re doing it wrong.
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) proving he’s completely insensitive, opportunistic douche on The Heritage Foundation’s “Istook Live!” show.
1. Where was God, indeed…
2. This does not justify your Islamophobic witch-hunt with Rep. Michele Bachmann, no matter how much you think it does. No one knows the motivation of James Holmes just yet. How about you let SWAT un-booby trap his apartment before hinting at motivation?
3. He was shooting in a crowded, dark movie theater with some sort of gas in the air. Holmes was reportedly dressed in SWAT/riot gear, with a bulletproof vest on. If you think you can take a shot in conditions like that, you’re crazy. I asked a pal who’s a cop about this. He said he doesn’t know many officers who’d take that shot with so many civilians in the way. As he put it, in a crisis like that, the focus is evacuation first, elimination second. But sure, pop off a few rounds, let the cops think you’re with the shooter — especially if you hit a fellow patron.
4. Nowhere did he even express sympathy. Gohmert just sermonizes with his “some of us happen to believe…” bullshit, then basically blames those who aren’t Christians for things like the Aurora shooting and insinuates we’re in a Holy War. No, Louie. Not this time. Not ever. My heart goes out to everyone affected by this shooting, not just the Christians.
What happened was horrific, tragic, unexpected, and sickening. If you believe these events happen because God isn’t protecting this country — only because a principal at a public high school can’t say a Christian prayer at graduation and God’s name can’t be plastered everywhere — then your God is a fickle asshole who’s guilty of quite a bit more than withdrawing his protection from the U.S.
As you explain your version of your God, Louie, it sounds like he’s a bully at best, and a terrorist at worst. I wouldn’t want to believe in a deity whose very protection depended upon lip service declarations of devotion inspired by terror.
You know what really gets me, as a human being, Louie? Attacks by people like you who don’t share your beliefs and use smug superiority complexes to say “Told ya! Now believe in my God before he kills you too!” before the dead can be buried. That’s what gets me.
I’m friends with Rodger and he’s a cool dude. He’s also the leader of “Bibles and Beer” — check it out:
In Cheyenne, McDaniel’s group began last year with Genesis and has just worked its way through Exodus. He says he has been surprised and pleased that people of all faiths have become regular attendees, and that broad mixture has broadened discussions.
As an example, he says he recently told the group he’d like to skip a section of Exodus on God’s instructions in tabernacle-building, a passage he says Christians often see as “intense and boring.” Regular Jewish attendees told him, “Oh, no, you want to go through that.” What followed, he says, was “this incredible discussion” about whether houses of worship should be functional and sparse, or ornate and inspiring.
One of the Jewish attendees, Jason Bloomberg, says he would not have automatically thought of a bar for a Bible study, but he says the “genius of Rodger’s choice is that you can reach out to people not comfortable in a typical faith setting.”
"My theory is based on a very old Jewish saying: ‘Where do you find God? Where you let God in,’ " Bloomberg says.
Mohamed Salih, a retired junior college dean and leader in the Southeast Wyoming Islamic Center, attends almost every week, and he often draws parallels between the Quran and the Bible.
"I strongly believe in interfaith dialogue, and discussion and conversation is how we are going to come together as Americans and people of different faiths," he says.
McDaniel says he got questions in the beginning from people concerned about associating alcohol with the Bible. His answer: “Jesus didn’t change wine into water.”
Find Rodger’s blog here. He’s a progressive minister with a great point of view.
My Siri-style Android app, Skyvi, got judgmental after I told her I’m an atheist. Apparently, it can pray for me AND tell me the weather in Miami.
Multitasking and robot prayer — it’s the future, kids.
ThinkProgress reports: “An Oklahoma emergency room doctor refused to provide emergency contraception to a 24-year-old female rape victim because the medication violated the health provider’s personal beliefs… ‘I will not give you emergency contraceptives because it goes against my believes,’ the doctor allegedly told the rape victim and her mother, Rhonda. ‘She knew my daughter had just been raped. Her attitude was so judgmental and I felt that she was just judging my daughter.’
Oklahoma law shields providers from offering the perfectly legal medication under a ‘conscience clause’ which could significantly hinder women’s access to contraception services.”
This is sick. You might have to carry your rapist’s child because MY beliefs say so? In what universe is that OK? Whatever happened to “first, do no harm” – and I mean the living, breathing patient in front of you, not a maybe baby conceived by a rape. The religious right whines about secularism intruding into their beliefs, but what is more intrusive than forced pregnancy?
This woman was luckily able to get EC at another hospital. Other people might not be so lucky.