Posts tagged conservative
Posts tagged conservative
Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman published an op-ed today in The American Conservative urging the Republican Party and conservatives to embrace marriage equality, stating:
Today we have an opportunity to do more: conservatives should start to lead again and push their states to join the nine others that allow all their citizens to marry. I’ve been married for 29 years. My marriage has been the greatest joy of my life. There is nothing conservative about denying other Americans the ability to forge that same relationship with the person they love.
All Americans should be treated equally by the law, whether they marry in a church, another religious institution, or a town hall. This does not mean that any religious group would be forced by the state to recognize relationships that run counter to their conscience. Civil equality is compatible with, and indeed promotes, freedom of conscience.
Judging by the comments and reactions on Twitter, Huntsman touched a nerve by calling out conservatives. So one question, then…
Oh, I think they mad.
Wyomingite and Universalist Minister Audette Fulbright wrote her representatives to express her concerns about expanding carry laws in schools and fracking. As she wrote: “Here is the response I got from Rep. Hans Hunt:”
“I’ll be blunt. If you don’t like the political atmosphere of Wyoming, then by all means, leave. We, who have been here a very long time (I am proudly 4th generation) are quite proud of our independent heritage. I don’t expect a ‘mass exodus’ from our state just because we’re standing up for our rights. As to your comments on fracking, I would point out that you’re basing your statement on ‘dangers’ that have not been scientifically founded or proved as of yet.
“It offends me to no end when liberal out-of-staters such as yourself move into Wyoming, trying to get away from where they came from, and then pompously demand that Wyoming conform to their way of thinking. We are, and will continue to be, a state which stands a head above the rest in terms of economic security. Our ability to do that is, in large part, to our ‘live and let live’ mentality when it comes to allowing economic development, and limiting government oversight. So, to conclude, if you’re so worried about what our legislature is working on, then go back home.
Representative Hans Hunt
House District 02”
Yes, that happened.
“Dear Rep. Hunt,
Regarding your recent email to Rev. Fulbright – Serving in the legislature is a privilege, not a birthright, and you serve all your constituents, even if they just moved here yesterday. You were a Wyomingite by accident. Over 60% of us, according to the last survey, were born somewhere else and become Wyomingites by choice.
If you’re incapable of playing well with others, perhaps it’s you that needs to go back home.
I’ll just leave his email here: email@example.com
From “Hitler took guns!” to “Hitler surrounded himself with kids!” to “OBAMA IS A NAZI BUT CONSTITUTION I LOVES MY GUN!” to “IMPEACH THE FÜHRER!” that’s got to be a record for going all Godwin.
The comments about Secret Service are just precious. It’s like Obama is the first president in the history of ever to use a Secret Service detail for himself and his family. That doesn’t make him a hypocrite. Newsflash: Ronald Reagan used Secret Service AND supported gun control. Chew on that for little bit. Bet it tastes like your own foot and hypocrisy.
For fuck’s sake, y’all. You can still own a gun. No one is taking that away. What we’re looking at now is maybe you don’t need a military-grade, semi-automatic assault rifle with a high capacity magazine for home defense and deer slaying.
And by the way, if you can’t get a deer in a few shots, it deserves to get away.
Chill. The. Fuck. Out.
*Statement is null and void if our hatred of Obama overrides our belief in “doing the right thing” because reasons.
FIXED THAT FOR YOU.
Legit Conservative, responding to a friend posting the Second Amendment because said pal wanted to remind folks what America’s all about. I thought his response was marvelous — similar to Joe Scarborough’s change of heart today.
Legit Conservative is on my radio show regularly, and he provides great commentary and answers to religious questions (he works with the church ministry at his non-denominational church). He’s also my partner in crime for when we taste weird junk food on-air. If you’d like to respond, email him at firstname.lastname@example.org or tweet at him @OlLegitty.
Suzanne Venker, writing for Fox News about how she’s super mega concerned that feminism makes men not want to get married. She’s currently promoting her book, How to Choose a Husband with statements like: “I’ve accidentally stumbled upon a subculture of men who’ve told me, in no uncertain terms, that they’re never getting married. When I ask them why, the answer is always the same. Women aren’t women anymore.” Oh, and she has a quiz to determine if you need this book. Questions include “Deep down, do you feel superior to men?” “As a general rule, do you pursue men (as opposed to letting men pursue you)?” and “Are you a product of divorce?”
A few things: This woman is Phyllis Schlafly’s niece. Schlafly rose to prominence by campaigning against the ERA and is generally a terrible person. I’ll let this
1908, 1958, 2008 exchange demonstrate this:
Could you clarify some of the statements that you made in Maine last year about martial rape?
I think that when you get married you have consented to sex. That’s what marriage is all about, I don’t know if maybe these girls missed sex ed. That doesn’t mean the husband can beat you up, we have plenty of laws against assault and battery. If there is any violence or mistreatment that can be dealt with by criminal prosecution, by divorce or in various ways. When it gets down to calling it rape though, it isn’t rape, it’s a he said-she said where it’s just too easy to lie about it.
Was the way in which your statement was portrayed correct?
Yes. Feminists, if they get tired of a husband or if they want to fight over child custody, they can make an accusation of marital rape and they want that to be there, available to them.
So you see this as more of a tool used by people to get out of marriages than as legitimate-
Yes, I certainly do.
Speaking of legitimate, Schlafly also backed Todd Akin. Venker has bought Auntie Phyllis’ bullshit hook, line, and sinker. In defense of Michele Bachmann as a modern submissive wife, she wrote, “Indeed, the opportunities women enjoy today are not the result of a bus load of feminists shouting for change. Rather, it has been a natural progression — aided in large part by men. It’s male engineering, ironically, that has freed women from their former domestic lives.”
Here’s Venker reminding us that we women must find a man to support us in this gem from
1911 2011. Because babies:
“The other, very taboo thing to say to young women is ‘you need to look for a man who can support you.’ And the reason why you want to do that is not because you’re never going to make your own money and go out into the world; it’s because you’re going to hit a point - particularly in those years when the children are not in school, the first five years - when you are not going to want to be bothered with making an income because you’re going to want to be with those babies.”
The furor over her Fox News article, quoted at the beginning of the post, forced her to issue a statement on her Facebook page. Venker wrote, “The vitriol spewed forth on the Internet is precisely the reason so many people – men, especially – keep their mouths shut when it comes to gender issues. That’s called thought control, and feminists are the ringleaders… I made a point that’s hard to hear — that women should surrender to their nature — and people chose to extrapolate all kinds of meanings from this statement.” THINK OF THE MENZ WHO CAN’T TALK ABOUT THIS YOU GUISE!
Does it really need to be said that Venker’s views leave no room for anything else other than a conceived-in-perfect marshmallow-fluff marriage between two upper class heterosexual WASPs?
But perhaps the hashtag on her Tweet promoting her article on Fox News explains it all:
Is it any wonder she’s a hero to the MRA charmers out there?
Update: She issued a new explanation to The Daily Beast's David Freedlander today:
"All I can say in my defense is that it can be so hard when you write as much as I’ve written—three books, articles, blogs—you think you have said something but you haven’t. It’s like I am thinking something and I am so clear about it and I think what I have said is that. I don’t know. I don’t know. I didn’t think that much about it…
I am not advocating a strict division of gender roles. I am not suggesting that women can’t compete with men in the workforce or that men can’t handle strong women. People are extrapolating these things because the article is, I admit, rather open-ended.
[Rather], women, once they have children would prefer to work part-time or not at all when their children are young. Their career trajectory will be different than that of men. Feminists don’t like that. They want everybody to want the same thing, career trajectories to be the same. Women may say I really want to exercise or hang out with my friends and have coffee or go shopping and have a cushier life, and your guy will be happy to do that, and go to the office all year long for 40 years to allow you to do that. Men don’t have that option. And there is nothing wrong with having different road maps.”
Ahem. May I give you some practical PR advice?
Just. Stop. Talking.
Stop. Like now.
Or alternately, keep going. Please. Make sure that no one takes you seriously ever again.